Problems remain in the minority Kurds are finally not want solutions that are hopeful days later. Thousands of people lost their lives Uğruna the Kurdish problem, in this country until now had not sat on any agenda in a way so peaceful. Search for solutions to a broad segment of the entry was never so. Kurds plan in preparation of the AKP government, Abdullah Öcalan of the 15 announced in August to explain the roadmap for the solution, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan's co-chairman of the Democratic Society Party finally face to face conversation with the women, for peace we hareketlendiler.26786
Sons in this war, the Turkish and Kurdish mother lost a great step from the previous day were in Diyarbakir and they embrace each other. Yesterday the women from all over Turkey's border in Hakkari for peace did wake. We organized this action, the Women's Initiative for Peace DTP Diyarbakır deputy spokesman of the Gültan Kışanak'la have opinions. DTP's group in the Kurdish question Başkanvekili the Gültan Kışanak'la the last change and development, which will happen after that we talk.
Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan and DTP Chairman Ahmet Turk finally had opinions. These may be signs of a serious change in your opinion?
In this regard, we are leery. Because our Prime Minister to parliament during the first week we came to the point, "ya know what I say or go," he said, and took two years of political tension. In the meantime, has been a lot of military operations. We "do not like this job. The solution is where the parliament "to tell the truth," Edi Bese-Enough "rally in the streets two years have passed. Think about it ... 50-100 thousand people in Diyarbakir for two years to once a month, "We can not solve this problem by exclusion. Let's solve the problem, speaking in parliament, "he would put on the streets.
So, with the Prime Minister after the peace process, the DTP will be the result of the person you are makes you?
Government's, DTP a role in how this process we want to mow, DTP can be given to the role of interlocutor with concrete about did not receive a sign. Prime Minister wants us to a place like that, or he has a plan to execute the request, then the DTP wants to drag along, DTP, AKP's being asked to be taken to spare, is not clear. This process can progress to overcome the problem of trust between the AKP and DTP is required. The need to meet more often. But I must say that the co-chairman of the Prime Minister "la diverted us about their talks with the overall impression was positive.
DTP, peace talks can take a person as well? Kurds agree to all these parties will be the interlocutor?
No one party over the world representing all the people can not. Already one of the Kurdish people's DTP spokesmen claim they never have me. "I am a representative of the Kurds. All the Kurds think like me "means, DTP's democracy is in contradiction with the claim. But this also has to be seen. DTP's policy discourse in the street with the Kurdish people are numb. DTP's why the vote is important. DTP, "I am the person in trouble" then, Kurdish political actors are the most common organizational structure that the Kurdish people on the request of the policies carried out for courageous people, and that the game itself in the position of their spokesman is trying to tell you see.
15th of the month to explain the roadmap Öcalan. This roadmap is a roadmap DTP's will be adopted? Or Are you also create a peace agenda?
Until now, İmralı "from the descriptions, DTP's solution reveals that the approach was always close to each other. İmralı'dan Now, we get the road map of recommendations likely to overlap. İmralı'dan out road map is very important. Because the processes that determine the course of effects of a position to do it.
How İmralı a position?
As a result, established and managed PKK'yi Sayın Öcalan was. 25 years he has conducted this war. Kurdish problem are to remove the conflict from the ground, nothing is normal up to talk with Öcalan. World or "beat-beat of the policy" are available. When someone beats the other will give up and renewed. Either this, or by living together, "We can solve the problem another way," and they are experiencing the democratic process. I think the Kurdish problem to-day defeat to beat was a point beyond the politics.
What was the point?
Two parties, "We can solve this problem with other methods" have come to say points. "Let's hit up the last, let us die, we will die, let's finish" approach, the win-win is the politics were no longer indispensable. PKK, already several times, "I am determined to solve the problem another way. If you experience such a process, you can also bid farewell weapons altogether, "he said. Democratic way in the country no longer have to try. The two sides "do not need more blood to flow" point comes, you should be talking with Öcalan. İmralı is a very important actor, and not to leave because it leaves the gun, the weapons, the process came to bid farewell to point you to decide which phase of the take is that it will.
You can drop the guns, but Öcalan?
Yes. We want you as much as "PKK weapons are left," he'll make a call, there is a provision of these calls? None. But Öcalan, the PKK leave the course and leave the gun. Because it may also leave a time and knows the ground.
PKK Öcalan's statement in August 15'indeki You "farewell to arms" to say?
I do not expect such a thing. I Öcalan, "this process can take weapons to the farewell point" i will explain. So 15'indeki noted that weapons will not get the decision, but farewell, farewell to arms of the program, "The way to drop the gun" out. Because the PKK is a very common organizations. In a very short time I decided to drop the weapon, not an organization to leave weapons at a time. If the solution process, the short, medium and long term goals as planned, we leave the weapons in any case will take place in the long-term program. First, mutual trust will be created in the short term.
Öcalan, the PKK's not ready to give an instruction does not "say. PKK, not ready to drop the gun?
PKK, for ten years, "the peaceful way to solve the Kurdish problem and would like to position myself in democratic politics," he says. The fact that the Kurds to demand democratic rights and a parallelism between PKK'nin weapons have left. Therefore, the "democratic facilitate after I got it. You come before a hele, drop the gun "approach does not process. Because the PKK, "I got my mountain out why. I did not leave the mountain to gather flowers. Output of eliminating the cause, let me leave this job, let me participate in democratic politics, "he says.
Any opinion about the DTP with Öcalan separation may occur?
You probably will not quit. Because all Öcalan to Turkey, Turkish people or Kurdish people, all political circles consider making an approach to politics. Already a month in all parts of Turkey, and recommendations are sent to lawyers. Öcalan "came 15 months, I'd describe a road map" he could. I did not too. Said a roadmap to the future and explain the problem so that the Kurds in Turkey will be discussed at the highest level has become. In fact, the government began to try similar way, the views he has now called for different sectors.
The two sides also wants to silence the weapons. For this state "Leave the gun to the PKK," he says. PKK da "before you are silenced weapons," he says. How to overcome this dilemma?
This dilemma can be solved from this point. We must consider public opinion. This is 20, not a hundred people. According to the General's explanation, this, 40 thousand people. To understand what is happening to forty thousand, forty thousand up to everyone to sit down and just say it. I will get to say I wonder how many hours? Numbers are cold. We would be around forty thousand. Each of these can have had people. Each one of her mother, father, brother, relatives had. Forty thousand young people in our hands and if you get a gun and you go to death and still continue to go the gene according to official figures are still in the mountains if there is at least six or seven thousand armed people ... 40 thousand citizens of this state to hold a gun to get you to death, we all divide and division, betrayal, leave the gun, the gun is silenced by the left to a debate and, above all we must ask.
What you should ask?
"How did people in this country were so decomposed, they polarize," he should ask. However, the process then we live, and the fact that the unification process is understood. Because we were divided. The new process will begin in the merger. If a hand gun to receive the country's 40 thousand citizens, and is going to die, for that country, this is the division sign. We were divided, now are merged. You see, all the dilemmas and divisions fears are exceeded. Moreover, this negotiation process, but should see the dialogue process. Because the job of looking into the bargain they enter the debate is who will compromise. We are on the table for negotiation, not to talk to each other and understand each other should sit down to create the atmosphere we can. That the Prime Minister's call that began with the DTP. Did not start as a bargaining negotiations.
DTP or Öcalan contact you, weapons in the hands of the PKK. Results of negotiations would be willing to be sure that the PKK's this?
Öcalan is speaking with the results are received. Even when two people fight one when you create a solution to play it low-no other person to bring this solution to work, would cause a new row. Therefore, the solution of the problem at the same time by the parties need to make. Moreover, the Kurdish question and the only actor with a single person with a problem can be solved. DTP has İmralı There have Kandil, Ankara there are different political environment, civil society organizations have ... Everyone should be included in the solution process Ankara.
First, what you should talk to?
Kurds deny the identity of a process we came here. Kurds have been denied but that the actual surrender of the legal need to be confirmed. At the moment the Kurdish identity and language of the legal guarantee of freedom is still not provided. However, democratic societies are shaped on the law. S Law does not exist, it is not my right. The Kurds want to be the completion of law related to freedom. For example, according to the law now, "Kurdish people" say is a crime. Can a request to open the case to prosecutors in the Kurdish population. Turkish citizens in this country which no longer have the rights that the Kurds should have rights. Equal citizenship is very important.
Only state that does not see the Kurds or the equivalent of the Turkish people do not see equal Kurds?
The important thing at a distance equal to the state's citizens, is a neutral stand. If the state in public the equal rights approach, the public facilities are distributed equally, the law on equality establishes norms to solve the Kurdish problem. Thirty years of conflict, where 40-50 thousand people to the cause of death in the war in a place where this conflict is still not into ethnic conflict, know that these two communities to accept each other indicates the level of height.
Kurdish identity and language to a large extent the problem is said to be the problem. An important part of the Turkish population of the Kurds in their own language in schools of education accept how do you explain?
Education is the explanation. Because in front of the Turks, Kurds and Turks will one day give up Kurds, "he has put a perspective. Turks, Kurds are believed to be Turkish. Kurds and Turks to be waiting. Assimilation policy is such a thing. States now, "you are Turkish. They Kurds. Will experience equal partners in this homeland "should also. But then the Turks, "that is to say they will not be in the future Turkish. Therefore, not to kill anyone "and they read in their own language of the Kurds in their own schools will accept. Kurdish-language education is very important to the opening of the school. In the field of health for example.
How important in the field of health?
The Kurds, Turkish for not knowing enough of the lack of health services. Turkey's family planning and immunization back this much because the tongue. Mother and infant mortality in terms of the terrible gap between the East with the West have. State is doing as a serious obstacle, but the language does not create and access services. Therefore, health, judiciary and education in two languages must be used. Education is the most backward in the region twenty Ilde 17. Why? The people here are more intelligent than you? Or just an economic opportunity that is the problem? Well, then in the West, is no poverty in Central Anatolia are asking you? This fact. Children do not see the main language for education can not be successful.
What do you expect to occur in the process used to say this?
The next year is crucial. Because Turkey will enter the atmosphere a year and then the selection of materials will be domestic policy issues. The next year is very good and a great deal of progress in the process of solution we should. Otherwise, the returning process of the 1990s this society can not afford ever again.
War is a difficult matter. International support can lose a fight as the PKK in the past?
As a matter of organization, we look at the door may be too obvious, maybe, but not a matter of organization, there is a public matter. Rights and freedoms are not recognized, the Kurdish problem will continue to produce conflict. Because the Kurdish problem is a problem is very easy to generate conflict. Last year, eighty-one other states have thirty Are Fit to revolt? Business and the weight of responsibility and feel it is necessary to solve this problem. "PKK is losing international support. PKK is an organization, crashes "we should avoid, such as memorization. What about the crash, but that? Out something else. In the past, how many were printed, çıkmış gene. In our state, organizations need to change its philosophy.
What do you want to change the philosophy of the Foundation?
States, institutions founded on the philosophy of tekçilik. With the Government in the hands of management to the military-civilian bureaucracy of the state of the democratic philosophy that, "one nation, one ethnic structure, only one type of human" pattern should be waived. For example, a pattern that women have the republic. How women are Republican?
What is?
My grandpa was Atatürkçü. "We came from the village to the city. You no longer going to be modern. Republic will be women, "he was holding and nene wear my overcoat was forced by the year. But forty years until I can wear my nene could not remove the shalwar and a coat, was worn over shalwar. Overcoat on the year of the gold was visited by the shalwar. Thus, women became a republic şalvarlı-mantolu.
Peace to very serious opposition from the CHP and the MHP have. How can you overcome this opposition?
Women MPs have engaged with their own party for peace partners. Throughout history can not be sovereign because the solution it is the language of women, the opposite perspective is oriented to to understand and accept. Women produce more easy solution.
Kurdish women for peace can play an important role?
Thirty years of violence that women were most affected. The war, the poverty of the most traumatic experience they had. This war, in terms of women's social awakening process was. Kurdish women are not struggling for peace today. Women's probably why the street was initially political, but ... Streets them at the same time, the power struggle with their identity in women has gained. Thus, women are aware of their identities and the power was. This type of a woman on the street has taken a more bellicose. Freedom struggle of women throughout the world look like it had already strengthened. Women have come to the streets, especially political reasons and was discovered in the streets of their own women's identity. The identity of the freedom struggle rise. Was it for Kurdish women.
You show a peace with the women Hakkâri'de edited.
Women contribute to the peace process, society and the state wanted to call out for peace.
Women hand in hand with the Kurds to the Turkish women for peace if they would be an important tool for pressure. You can?
I am very hopeful about this ... Because a significant experience has been accumulated now. Because the biggest problem in this country that happened. Everyone was crying in this country to its own dead. Everyone has their next child. Everyone has their own pain as the larger, more valuable you think your own tears It was the other. I share the pain no longer applied, the next to each other's troubles, the time has come to understand each other. If the peace process forward, pain our partners.
You hope it is near the stone of peace Do you?
Yes, I am very hopeful. 49 years old. This entire country was experiencing. Never in the future of peace, never been so hopeful. Yaşanan things left behind were too big pain, but at the same time it will mature people.
Kurdish people are what you expect from peace?
Death is waiting for the stop. In Turkey, but this region has experienced great pain and a normal day without interruption ever lived thirty years, did not. Kurds see the wedding, although ... War has become a part of life so that, even at the wedding in the war made life painful for the playing song, this song was playing with. These conflicts, war and world folk songs have much! Kurds now want to get these days is a normal life. Up in the morning these days is something they will not want to say. For example, this year we say the Kurds were the main. "My daughter would we do spring cleaning. Beds, duvets would collapse, our wall used to have. We've forgotten the spring cleaning. Every day the streets are. Give it a rest the following actions we'll do our spring cleaning "said. The Kurds want to really return to normal life.
Peace came to say exactly what you need to?
Conversely again, the process returns tomorrow with a provocation should not have to worry about. Comfort and trust in a more conflict does not need to hear. Feel this confidence, we came to this country to peace.
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